Udanda People’s Defence Force
Last night I recieved news that there were reports of Ugandan militia in or around Nyanza Province and Western Province. I waited utill I got confirmation from the ground. After several late night phone calls, I did confirm(from local citizens) that Ugandan Forces were indeed within Kenyan borders. Just within the last hour Ugandan Army Spokesman, Major Felix Kulayigye, confirmed the deployment of the troops on Tuesday, saying “it is to forestall possible spill over of violence in Kenya”.
He told The Standard on telephone: “The deployment is along our borderline, not to give any kind of military backing to President Kibaki. We are not mercenaries for anyone.””
So Uganda’s official position is that they have just beefed up security on the Border. However civilian boots on the ground claim that there are Ugandan militia operating within Kenya. Their Mission is unknown. I just wrote an email to Alfred Mutua, the government spokesman, asking him of his position on a foreign military operating in Kenya. Alfred am still waiting for your reply.
In the meantime, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni has been quoted as saying that “all this lies on Raila’s shoulder”. Mr.Museveni has never been particularly fond of Raila and there were discussions before the elections about the implications of a Raila win.
So if we do have Ugandan militia in Nyanza province, many of you might ask why? Well, here is a simple answer. Uganda is a landlocked country that relies heavily on the political stability of Kenya for imports and exports through the Mombasa Port on the Indian Ocean and is dependent on the the safe passage of goods through Kenya.The political instability has had devastating effects on Uganda’s economy. Uganda, fuel prices have risen from USh2,400 (Sh100) to USh5,000 (Sh225). Most oil importing companies have reported that they have not replenished their stocks after their reservoirs dried up. So there is motive as to why Uganda would get involved.
stats on UPDF
formerly known as National Resistance Army
total strength:40-45,000, consists of land forces and an Air Wing
1,800 paramilitary personnel also, which include the Marines – Uganda’s naval force – with 400 personnel, and eight riverine patrol craft, all of less than 100 tonnes
600-strong Border Defence Unit equipped only with small arms.
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**UPDATE**JAN 7TH 2008
MUSEVENI CONTRADICTS ENERGY MINISTER AND DENIES PRESCENCE OF UGANDAN TROOPS IN KENYA
Raila said Ugandan president Museveni has called him thrice denying there were Ugandan soldiers in Kenya. “Museveni was at pains to explain that his soldiers are not here. He asked me to clarify the issue to the Kenyan people.”
Even as Museveni denied this, the rumour of Ugandan soldiers killing civilians in western Kenya remained strong.
FULL STORY http://eastandard.net/news/?id=1143980012&cid=4
UPDATE***JANUARY 13TH 2008
I HATE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO, BUT I TOLD YOU SO.
Some bloogers were afraid of carrying this story because the main stream media was not saying anything about it. But now this just appeared on the EAST AFRICAN STANDARD.
Alarm over alleged presence of Ugandan troops in Kenya
Published on January 13, 2008, 12:00 am
By Sunday Standard TeamArmed Ugandan soldiers are allegedly crossing into Kenya.
Busia residents told The Sunday Standard that some Ugandan troops have been sighted in town and in Port Victoria along River Suo.
“They are scattered all over along the borders with some patrolling along Lake Victoria,” said a secondary school teacher in Budalang’i District.
According to Nambale MP-elect, Mr Chris Okemo, some of the soldiers have reportedly crossed “no-man’s-land” borderline to Busia town on the Kenyan side.
“We have received reports that a number of strangers, whose mission is unknown, have been spotted in groups. We are still investigating the claims,” he said.
Bondo MP-elect Dr Oburu Oginga also claimed that people in Ugandan military gear docked at Mageta Island last evening in batches.
“The first batch of 12 soldiers who spoke strange Kiswahili arrived at Mageta Island past 5pm on Friday and asked for directions to Usenge and Uhanya beach,” Oburu said.
Oburu said he informed police in Bondo after more soldiers allegedly landed at Mageta two hours later.
“We are concerned with these strange military personnel in the area. The residents are worried,” Oburu said.
However, Nyanza PPO Ms Grace Kaindi denied the claims.
“That is nonsense. There is no way foreign troops can be sneaked into the country since we are not at war with anybody,” she said.
“We have laws that can help us deal with any security threat in the province. Residents should ignore rumours about Uganda soldiers taking positions on Kenya borders along Lake Victoria,” she said police investigation showed no foreign troops.
Similar strange military arrivals were reported in Bungoma, where they allegedly boarded six buses.
Suspicion has been high in Uganda over President Yoweri Museveni’s possible role in the Kenyan presidential poll fiasco.
Museveni was the only Head of State in the region to congratulate Kibaki for being re-elected.
Ugandan authorities have denied that its soldiers had crossed into Kenya.
Museveni’s Media advisor, Mr John Nagenda, on Sunday denied the claims.
Uganda’s Army spokesman, Captain Paddy Ankunda, also refuted the claims.
He said the only Ugandan soldiers in Kenya are training at the Karen Defence College in Nairobi.
So just because the “main stream” media is not carrying a story, don’t assume its not true.
UPDATE JAN 23 2007
Ugandan army uniforms found
Published on January 24, 2008, 12:00 am
By Robert Wanyonyi
Tension remained high at Malaba border after residents impounded a lorry full of Ugandan military uniforms.
The residents stopped the lorry, registration number KAV 018T, headed to the customs department and demanded to view its contents.
The besieged driver pleaded with the residents to let him pass as rowdy youths threatened to lynch him.
The angry mob was in the process of setting the lorry ablaze when riot police arrived.
Amid shouts of, “Open it, open it!” the residents almost overpowered the police, prompting Teso OCPD, Mr Joseph Kiget, to order the driver to open up the cargo.
Councillor Chrisantus Kipala, of Malaba Central Ward, and a few other people boarded the lorry to verify the items as residents cheered and broke into songs.
Pairs of Ugandan military uniforms and caps with State emblems were fished out of the boxes.
“Now you can relax because you have seen what the lorry is carrying. You can now let the driver proceed with his journey,” the OCPD told the crowd.
The residents told The Standard they will keep vigil at the boarder and are demanding an explanation from the Government about the Ugandan military uniforms.
Kenyan customs officials at the border declined to talk to journalists regarding the matter.
Ugandan security officials who had crossed the border to receive the consignment disappeared on realising the arrival of the KTN camera crew.
Tension has been high in western Kenya following rumours that Ugandan soldiers are in the country.
The soldiers were said to have headed to Nyanza, Western and Rift Valley provinces, where violence broke out after President Kibaki was declared the winner in last year’s discredited General Election.
Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni has gone on record, saying he did not help President Kibaki in his controversial re-election.
The Ugandan Electoral Commission also denied having played a part in the tallying of presidential results.
Museveni also attributed the post-election violence to the Electoral Commission of Kenya.
Museveni is in the country as part of a mediation team.
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This is very bad news. Why are they IN the country? I understand that they are at the border within our borders???!!! Something is very wrong. Another country’s army cannot just enter another anyway they wish.. and I don’t trust them because of the situation in Northern Uganda. God be with us!
You have to understand that The Ugandan Military has a long history of crossing into Kenya’s border with total disregard of Kenyan Sovereignty. starting with October 21, 1987 when Uganda ammassed troops at the border and sent its agents into Kenya to pursue insurgents. Kenya at this time threatened retaliation and a war almost erupted. Things escalated when Moi threatended to close the border thus cutting off the Port of Mombasa to Uganda and Museveni threatened to cut off electricity from Jinja in Uganda. Recently Ugandan troops have had military operations in the Mt.Elgon area
This is totally ridiculous. Hw can the govt. allow this to happen, unless they are involved in the scheme. Joseph, did u send ur findings to the media? pls do, our beautiful nation is under siege!
Museveni does it again! Yoweri Kaguta Museveni. This man is by and large responsible for most of the wars that go on in central africa. Not any war goes on around central and eastern africa without the direct participation of Museveni in the form of troops. For some reason he likes to see anarchy around him because that ensures his continual power in Uganda and the region. Museveni helped kagame restore order in Rwanda and now he doesnt like the fact that Rwanda are prospering (because this will make Kagame stronger than him) so he is helping interahamwe in Congo invade western regions of Rwanda under threats of full-fledged invasion. He is the one responsible for the genocide in Congo. He killed garang and is now fanning more ethnic conflict in southern sudan. I could go on and on. Kibaki has sold us to the devil.
THIS IS AN APPEAL TO THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA TO COVER THIS STORY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. It is extremely likely that there is now a foreign military presence in Kenya. That foreign presence is being led by a dictator who has made his distaste for Raila Odinga known. It is very likely that this dictator has deployed troops to Nyanza province where the majority of Kenya’s Luos reside. If this isn’t news, then what is?
Word on the ground is that one of the missions of the Ugandan Force is to ensure safe passage of fuel supplies from Kenya to Uganda. I wonder what else their mission is
[...] troops are working with Kenyan government forces but this has yet to be officially verified. Joseph Karoki has more on the [...]
That had better be their only mission. I think if they were to start doing foolish things, it would trigger the Kenyan army to act who I believe are watching things closely.
Let us also pray for the peace rally in Nairobi and that there is no more bloodshed from it. I will be tuned to your blog for updates
Also, I would like to know your thoughts on the media ban. Do you think it is helping to prevent “alarming” stories that could incite more riots or is it harmful that is allows rumours such as the arrest of Pentagon Members which spread on Sunday to filter through, thus causing more unrest.
Is this a good by to EAC? The situation is very alarming, and I worry about friends in Nyanza. Ordinary people deserve better.
Sadly the international media is mainly covering the looting and rioting. Sure politics should not be left to these young men who run up and down beating and burning, and being beatten. I can understand their frustration and need to react, but it frightens me.
Official Statement/Press Release from my Father…
I, Apostle Harry Das along with my wife, as Preachers and Teachers of the Word of God operating in Kenya for over 30 years, and as the founder(s) of Chrisco Fellowship of Churches, would like to make the following official statement: I am asking for all people who love God and are truly “Saved” to refrain from acting with bitterness, hatred, tribal prejudice or involvement with murderous behaviour, but to act in forgiveness, love and mercy. Cry for peace and through prayer, bind the ravenous spirits of bloodshed that have come upon the Nation, because as Christians we are taught by the Bible according to Ephesians 6:10-18, that during times of upheavals and killings there are always Evil Spirits working behind the scenes to cause death, destruction and chaos. God assures us that He is a God of Mercy, and during times of wrath and judgment, he can temper the severity of the situation because of His mercy (Habakkuk 3:2). This is the position all Christians should take now, not to depend on natural weapons to defend us during this perilous time, but to rely on Spiritual help as stated in 2Chorinthians 10:4-5. God says to use the power of Prayer! Prayer is what will pull down all strongholds and bring peace to the hearts of those who are committing violent acts. Jesus said in Matthew 5:9, Blessed are the Peace Makers, for they shall be called the children of God. Follow the ways of peace, and pray that the honest process of democracy will prevail. On behalf of all Chrisco Churches, Pastors and Members, our thoughts and prayers are with the families and loved ones of those Kenyans who have been killed, maimed or displaced during the past few days. May God have mercy on us, May God have mercy on Kenya.
Apostle Harry Das
http://www.DasMinistries.com
For the record, this is what the Standard recorded Major Felix Kulayigye as actually saying:
“Ugandan Army Spokesman, Major Felix Kulayigye, confirmed the deployment of the troops on Tuesday, saying “it is to forestall possible spill over of violence in Kenya”.
He told The Standard on telephone: “The deployment is along our borderline, not to give any kind of military backing to President Kibaki. We are not mercenaries for anyone.”"
The full story is at http://allafrica.com/stories/200801020841.html
155 fuel tankers on the way to Uganda – govt
Elias Biryabarema & Andrew Bagala
KAMPALA
Energy Minister Daudi Migereko yesterday assured the nation that 155 fuel tankers were due to be escorted from Nakuru in Western Kenya for crossing into Uganda.
Mr Migereko told journalists that the government had discussed with executives of petroleum companies and the Kenyan authorities on how to secure supplies through Kenya which is being convulsed by a post-election bloodletting turmoil.
“We expect 30 of these to arrive tomorrow and probably more in the next few days.”
ful story here http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/news/155_fuel_tankers_on_the_way_to_Uganda_-_govt.shtml
If this serious allegations is true, then the Ugandan government should be quickly brought to book and if the situation persists, then the militia should be sought and destroyed for compromising our national security and sovereignty. This is a very grave act of war and should not be tolerated in any way. This is not Rwanda, Uganda, Congo or Burundi where armed forces are indisciplined and meddle in politics.
Uganda has been doing this for years. From chasing insurgents well into west Pokot to military operations in the Mt Elgon area. A basic search on the internet will show the history of the military crossing Kenyan borders
The good news is, this will hopefully attract more attention to the situation in Darfur. If this affects the oil in Uganda and the supplies that are transported through Kenya, more people will hopefully put more pressure on teh Chinese government to put pressure on Uganda as their #1 buyer of oil. One of the main ways to do this is to boycott the Summner Olympics in China that they are very proud of. There has been a few activists, including George Clooney, that have spoken with Chinese government officials and even dubbed their events as the ‘Genocide Olympics’ to develop bad press so that they will conform!
Museveni feels that a Raila win would prove that true democracy is workable in Africa. He is just another African strongman who rode into power on the crest of bringing good governance and accountability. But ones he tasted power, you know just how he changed tune. Let him deploy his troupes in Kenya but the truth is that a time will come when he will rue such decision. They won’t bring Kenya down no matter how hard they try. For your information, the person who has helped broker such a deal is vice president Moody Awori who has a very rosy relationship with Museveni and whose blood brother is a minister in Museveni’s government. Yes, in Uganda! Awori was deeply entangled in the Anglo-leasing scandal and that gives him even all the more reason to oppose a Raila presidency to the hilt. That’s the truth even if they deny.
To God be the Glory Great things He has done. We do not war against flesh and blood but against principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this earth, spiritual wickedness in the heavenlies! The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God, to the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.
Kenya is under the hand of the Lord and no one will destroy it. Neither the evil angels of death, nor the ravenous spirits of blood letting. The Bible tells us that in the days of the end, God shall build his church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Therefore, the people of God are fasting and praying and waging war in the spirit. Our God shall prevail. We shall overcome. We serve a mighty God. A God of peace and also a God of war. It is written that Kings shall fall for our sake. The mighty and the proud shall not prevail.
KENYA SHALL HAVE PEACE NOW, IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
[...] reports of military intervention of Ugandan militia forces in Kenyan Nyanza Region. It should be in the interested of the United States not to hold on to Kibaki, before they loose their influence in the whole region. [...]
Still awaiting the response of major media outlets such as the BBC, CNN, and NY Times as to the presence of the Ugandan military in Nyanza province.
Since the EAC is in place, it is proper to send the Army to help stop the violence in Kenya just like the Ugandans have done in Somalia, there is no problem with the Ugandan Army being in Kenya to stop violence.
[...] A Kenya Red Cross volunteer, right, reacts as Kibera residents line up to receive food aid. Picture by Joseph Karoki [...]
[...] la crisis política y social que siguió a las elecciones presidenciales. Las noticias del bloguero Joseph Karoki advierte sobre la presencia de las milicias [...]
Museveni must know that we as kenyan will hold him accountable. when we are through with kibaki, we will come for him. we know he runs a rag-tag army with countable helicopters. and when we come for him, his rebels(LRA) in the north and rwanda from the south might just get an opportunity to catch. He must know that there is a new generation of Kenyans who do not forget. however long it takes.
Moi is deep in the scheme to not let go of the presidency of Kibaki. Awori is neck deep in too. Saitoti is a beneficiary and Kalonzo is a hypocrite. Museveni has an interest in not having Raila take the mantle. Museveni is sneaky. Remember, the goldenberg and the Anglo leasing scandals? Raila, the Pentagon group and the Kenyans are the culprits. Kenyan people are worried and the truth of the matter is; the masses will win and shall prevail. Remember Romania, the French Revolution of 1789, remember the Orange revolution of Ukraine?
Fellow citizens, let us all rise to the occasion and say NO to the illegal and illegitimate presidency of Kibaki. Raila, please do not accept nothing short of re-election in 3 months and transition government headed by the speaker of the house pending a presidential rerun. Please DO NOT accept the ceremonial prime ministership. We also ask the foreign powers to start denying and cancelling Visas of people like Martha Karua, Mwai Kibaki, Moody Awori, George Saitoti, Raphael Tuju, Uhuru Kenyatta, Kalonzo Musyoka, John Michuki, Lucy Kibaki, and the rest of those disgruntled greedy people in this self imposing government. The issue facing Kenya is not tribal. The politicians are using cheap political gimmicks to make it look so. All Kenyans in the diaspora need to rise and condemn what seem to be a cancer in our country. Kibaki need to step down and do it immediately. He will not effectively rule. He has a minority in parliament, he will face political isolation, economic embargo from foreign powers and poorly perform in his bide to deliver to the people of Kenya. Kenyan economy is facing bleak future and uncertainty. The massive unemployment and no foreign investment will soon set in. The FREE secondary education promised will not materialize. If it does, will not not for too long with Kibaki in power. The tourism industry is facing layoffs already. We shall see rise in NGOs and more security companies taking a lion’s share of employing the people. That is a sign of bad economy and little or no productivity.
It is hard to imagine that the Ugandan forces would commit more heinous acts than those committed by kenyans in rift valley province. Burning of women and children in a church is about the lowest even the lowliest of animals could go. So I say, bring them on. There’s no sovereignty to preserve in the first place. Wazungus have being doing whatever they want and getting away with it for a long time. Remember the rape of Maasai women by British troops? Whatever happened to that story? Do you think if terrorists had bombed the kenyan Embassy in Washington, DC the US would have sent them to Nairobi for trial? Those advocating for violence should know that things could get worse. And if it takes Kaguta to point them in that direction then so be it. The real story is that these murderers, rapists and looters supported by the opposition want to exterminate the Kikuyu without interference. Good luck killing seven million.
There are reports from the locals here in Homa-Bay at the shore of lake Victoria that The UG troops are staying at our local hotel TOurist Hotel and that their arms are being ferried at the moment
kenyans are now able to see who were the rightful custodians of presidency. kibaki having said they have the numbers to win in parliament thinking there was going to be rigging, what a shame when those who didnt brag won the two powerful seats i.e speaker and deputy. how will they in PNU conduct business in the house where the executive is in opposing side? to avoid more embarassing moments kibaki should humbly step down from that not so good seat and go for a re run or if his pride is too much to do that he should go into self exile and let kenyans have their choice. kisumu was burnt, as the residence claim by ugandan forces though members of pulic did the looting. homes have been identified where the troops are said to be housed yet no investigation has been done, thus the killings will continue if kibaki cannot see sense. Museveni should know that kenyans are not happy with what he’s doing and kenyans will go after him. All in all kibaki cannot be a president leading only two provinces in a country where there are eight provinces.
ODM in paralyzing parliament will only aid in cementing dictatorship. After all they gave the President wide reaching powers and if they don’t want to earn their pay Kenya will be governed through executive directive. Rather than thumping their chests for winning the speaker position, ODM should use the position to foster reconciliation and to get ordinary Kenyans out of misery.
Kamau Wa Njoroge I Cant Help But Say That We Know Where Your Allegiance Lies And Therefore Whatever Comments You Make Cannot Be Taken To Be Objective. So Keep Your Biased Sentiments To Yourself And Spare Us The Anguish Of Always Reading Them!
After Amin’s regime was overthrown, a Commonwealth training force was sent to reorganize the army, which proved difficult. In 1987, the National Resistance Army (NRA) was established as the national army in the wake of another civil war. Thousands of defeated guerillas were given amnesty and integrated into the NRA, swelling its ranks to as many as 70,000–100,000 men, armed with outdated US, UK, and Russian weapons.
The Ugandan People’s Defense Force was estimated at 50,000–60,000 in 2002 and consisted of four divisions armed with approximately 140 main battle tanks. There was an air wing with perhaps 16 combat aircraft. Paramilitary forces consisted of a border defense unit of around 600, some 400 marines, a police air wing of around 800, and local defense units numbering up to 15,000. Uganda has some 3,000 troops stationed in the DROC. Defense expenditures in 2001 were reported at $121.3 million, or 2.1% of GDP.
this ,man Kibaki whatever the hell his name is should be kicked out of power ´by force, am really angered by the fact that innocent people are losing their lives while this politically impotent man and his barren fruitless wife Lucy Kibaki are enjoying the friuts of theft. Shame on the president Mwai kibaki whatever the fuck his name is and his stupid wife. Kibaki is ruling in the shadow of his doubled left legged wifed.
If we are a nation under God, we should advocate justice and equality for all. We should not promote tribalism, tribal remarks that have occupied kenya for the past 40 years or so. We should not despite others. We should love our neighbors and we love ourselves -therefore no killing, no looting, not evicting others, no stealing votes and election victory from others, no burning other peoples’ homes, shops and property. We should know that the Kingdom of God is founded on Righteousness and Justice Psalm 89:14. Where is justice in kenya? Where is righteousness in Kenya? These two are the pillars for peace. Without them you can not hold any peace. Pleace lets forsake our tribal pride and demands, and dominancy and let us esteem each others and prefer each other to promote love, mercy, juctice, that we may have peace with our neighbours.
Lets not hurt one another, lets not talk high because it only oangers others and the end result is violence. We are all wrong. We have all gone astray. Isaiah 53. Lets not boast in our tribe and evil that we have done stealing other people’s rights – Votes, property, homes etc. Read Isaiah 59. Lets all condemn evil and let us not call evil good and good evil and make who rans from it become a prey (victim to be slaughtered).
Lets start from the very beginning and lets repent that God may save our country. We all slept during the campaign and election time believers. We all went our ways supporting our camps and God saw the injustices that have been going on for decades and He withdrew His protection and the enemy came striking us. For example why should majority of Kenyans be so poor that we cannot afford a meal a day. Why should people live in slums while we claim we had have peace and stability over 40 years – what stability and justice is there where our people live in mathare, kibera and in dire poverty in all parts of Kenya and beyond. This is the reason we are paying the price. – we have sold ourselves to corruption -bribery for every single service you get in the country – brethren this is ridiculous -lets change this norm. We planted seeds of hatred, tribalism, self-pride due to our tribes, we even boast with God- unfortunately God does not uphold those who boast and do wickedness. He resists the proud. Let start with righteousness and justice. Proverbs says Righteousness exalts a nation but wickedness (sin) is a reproach to all. This is why reproach has come upon us.
People of kenya lets return to God and let us execute mercy and justice to all. Let us walk together as one man. Let us unite for we are all God’s children – neither is one suprerior or inferior before God- all are equal. Therefore let show equality to all. I love you all Chege
What is this outrage based on unresearched and untruthful information? Some one metioned that Agrey Awori is a minister in Uganda that is false! The Monitor article quoting Ugandan minister is selectively quoted to suit the story line and qouted out of context.
Why are you people trying to stir hatered between the two countries? It is in M7’s interest and all Ugandans that Kenya is peaceful and would at no point thus send troops into Kenya. The so called alleged incursions after cattle rustlers are joint operations agreed upon by both governments to try and stem cattle rustlling between people on boder towns. There are a number of Kenyan refugees in Uganda who the government is even taking care of much better than Ugandans themselves (flood victims). They have been well accomodated, provided for and protected (even from poisoning from some fellow Kenyans that infiltrated the camp). We (Uganda government) protected and helped shelter the over 200 Kenyan children that had been stranded until they went back home. Thousands of Kenyan students are in Ugandan High schools and Universities (they are treated well). There is so much the Uganda is doing to help and pray for Kenya because when Uganda was in need Kenya helped us. Why is it that some people are insulting our kindness and compassion for our Kenyan brothers? Who are these unfounded romours benefiting? I guess they are serving the intrests of those trying to divert attention from the problem at hand – and that is that the election tallying process was a sham and that now there is a political and human crisis in Kenya. Let that be the issue and that should be dealt with and solved. Who is shooting the inocent children on the Kenyan streets? Is it the UPDF or the Kenyan police? People don’t fall into the trap of being diverted from the real issue. We as Ugandans are praying for Kenya ad we pray that peace shall prevail. Leave M7 and Uganda out of this.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS GOES TO KAMAU WA NJOROGE AND LUBULWA PETER ALPHA……..ARE YOU GUYZ SICK IN THE HEAD?
How can you be so stupid, you should be gratefull i cant get hold of you,mngeona cha mtemakuni.
NJOROGE, HOW MUCH IS KIBAKI PAYING YOU TO SPEAK SUCH NONESENSE?
AND YOU LUBULWA?
I THINK THE DEMONSTRATORS SHOULD LOOK FOR YOU AND GIVE YOU SOME PROPER BEATINGS TILL YOU GET YOUR SENSES BACK.
IDIOTS………
WHAT IS WITH KAMAU WA NJOROGE AND LUBULWA PETER ALPHA?
IF YOU GUYZ HAVE NOTHING TO SAY DONT SAY IT HERE.
AND LIKE ALOKO APIDO SAYS “KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELFS”
AND UNGANDAN, WHO ASKED FOR YOUR OPINION?
For Kibaki to allow a foreign troop presence to enter the country and kill Kenyans on KENYAN SOIL is an illegality and against his oath of office. It also allows UG to send it’s spies to scout out the military installations and other strategic potential military targets. M7 must have smiled all the way back home from this deal, he must also have confirmed that indeed Kibaki must be very stupid. UG is our neighbor with whom we have had the largest number of near fights and quarrels since we became independent.
Verification that indeed these fellas are here was provided by nurses, doctors and staff of Moi teaching and referral hospital when the same fellas threw teargas and fired live rounds at said hospital in pursuit of ati demonstrators!! The staff reported they knew no Kiswahili and spoke broken English with UG accents. These are the same fellows killing Kenyans like chicken in Kisumu and Western parts of the country.
Why our well paid army is still in the barracks while foreign troops muddy and bloody our country I dont know. The situation will not last for long. Do not be suprised if you hear of atrocities aggainst the Internally Displaced Camps in an attempt to shore up the genocide talk. This will have been done thro these mercenaries hired by Kibs and gang against his own people!!! The international community will then think Kibs will be best to look out for the Kikuyu if there is threat of Genocide. Kibs will kill even his own father (He already did it) so as to save his skin. He has no love for our country.
Africans we have three problems affecting our moving forward:- 1-ignorance, poverty and disease. But what is really being exposed here by some Kenyans is Ignorance with a very high level of mypiocity. Use your stuffed brains and examine the situation carefully before you start blaming some one else for your problems. Is M7 killing people in Mombasa or in Nairobi. He is just trying to make sure the goods reach safely in the land without being rooted. We Kenyans are rooting, killing and doing all sorts of abuse to our own. Stop blaming our problems on others. Take responsibility of what is happening in our beloved country.
Wazungu is laughing at us. The more we keep attacking our own brother(ignorance for no good reason) the more chaotic we will ever be.
We have been disappointed and let down by our own Kenya military men. It is amazing how Kenya is very unprotected. Our boarders are wide open to some kind of foreign intruders. Anyway, a messgae to Museveni, we will show you who we are after the new government has been augurated. For now, we are still poliking on how to through this Mount Kenya mafia out of State house. So, do what you can now, coz’ guess what? Payback time is round the corner. You will feel our wrath. You ain’t anything but a rebel leader who is clinging on power.
Ugandan…we are grateful for what your country is doing for our fellow Kenyans however coming from Eldoret…I would like to express my fears that the police there is UGANDAN. How can an officer who went to Kiganjo not even know Sheng? Might them have dropped from Harvard?
I do not think it is right for us common mwananchi to result in insullts such as those of jaluo and Dorothy. We are peace loving people. Dorothy, why insult the president and his wife? The other politicians are not entirely innocent as you may like us to think. Such insults do not only show your shallow mindedness but lack of respect towards the institution of the presidency.
I wonder where comments such as those posted by Jaluo and Okello will take us. Why not have some more mature comments.
Jaluo, if all ODM supporters are reasoning like you and threatening others simply cos they differ in opion,then I understand why hundreds of Kikuyus have been killed in Kisumu.
Fight for your right but do not let your actions be harmful or override the rights of other innocent Kenyans
Ann, do you have any proof that hundreds of Kikuyu’s have been killed in Kisumu? Have you even heard of one Kikuyu killed in Kisumu?
What people r hearing about ugandan troops is absolutely true First of all it was museveni who was behind the genocid in Rwanda where thousands of hutus were murdered and it was instead said that it was tutsis. With the case of Kenya, it is still musevenis idea to kibaki, to murder the luos and turn it around and say it were the kikuyus who r murdered.
If people r very observat and keen as to what happens around Uganda, then one will see the pattern and methods of killngs that were practiced in Rwanda, Northern uganda, sudan and then Congo to be the same methods just being used in Kenya. Museveni is very cunning and he go without being noticed. His idea of the creation of the tuts empire is coming true.
Only if kibaki is wise let him not put the fate of his own fellow kenyans and not just luos or kikuyus.
The tutsi people kill without heart or remorse, they r brutal in their killings. This might or is sounding as untrue or propaganda or rumours, but believe me or not by the time kenyans wake up it will be to late. Look at the situation of the luo people in northern uganda. By the way he will use the kenyans themselves to do exactly what he wants to achieve.
For example, his so called ugandan soldiers who ofcourse aren’t kill the kikuyu with impunit and then the kikuyu will believe it is the luo and vice verse. The end result will be strong hatred will be accumulated. This in turn will portray the luos as brutal and secretarian in their politics, meaning they should never be given the opportunate to govern the kenyans assuming as what would they do if they grab power.
Let us all stretching from burundi, Rwanda, Tanzania, Congo, Sudan and kenya wake up. Tanzania is next. Remember, he is very cunning,. He is good at manipulation and he uses the tricks of the White people of LOVE the Enemy and HATE your own kind.
By the way am not kenyan but african, who believes in true democracy. Let us wake up, other wise we are all gone. remember the the Museveni type have the cast-system, where they believe others are slaves to them. Money is power and museveni has accumulated the wealth. Another important issue here is that Museveni is a true darling of the americans and the british. First of all in uganda there are american bases. A base to plunder Congo of its vast natural resourses, uganda of its oil and gold Sudan aof its oil too, somali of its unexpoated oil and the coast to the sea. So it will fall on a deaf ear to the american and the west in general. They do not care whether its thousand or millions of death occuring every day. So long as Museveni gives them what they want and in return they give him what he wants to achieve and that is the tutsi empire. Museveni and his people operate just as the USA’s CIA and secondly they claim that they are the Jews of Africa. Aboad museveni usess foriengners to spy on ugandans and rwandan hutus. He ahs been using sudaness and somalian. About big politicians, he won’t shoot u, but rather use the methods and people u less expect. He uses biological weapon i.e HIV, Poisoning that can take one to two years so that it will look one has died of natural deaths. TO challenge my certainity, just go through all prominent NRM members belonging to other ethnic groups how they died. Once he has used u to a certain level u r dead. Look at the presidents of Burund, Rwanda, COngo(kabila senior), Sudan(Garanga) how they died. We need to wake up
Mugishuni, you are next on Museveni’s list. Be really afraid. Always look over your shoulders coz anytime he will strike you. Oh man you should try writting fiction Novels. You probably will make a fortune that way. Hey you know what a cool twist will be to your story? Is if you added that somehow M7 is hidding Osama (having conspired with the Americans) and that he was also involved in killing Bhutto because he wants to extend his world influence to Asia. Uhm! by the way with all the oil that he is importing through Kenya I suggest that they investigate him coz i think he may not only be building chemical weapons but also nuclear bombs. What do you think Mugishuni? I say we petition NATO and Uganda experiences a series of strikes that will instill “Shock and Awe”. Indeed Mugi……… we need to wake up.
all things are possible with our God. He is the only one who has way out for all things. Infact whatever has been happening he knew it before for he is alfa and omega. therefore in all things let us give thanks to him for he is all knowing and he has reson for all things.
What a mighty God he is. Glory, honor, power and majest be unto him all the days of our life amen